Most people’s middle and high school years can be some of the most awkward, unsure times in their lives.

But if you’re a company, that time in your development can come a little earlier — maybe a few years in when you’re not quite a startup anymore, but there’s still only a handful of employees running the show.

That’s the theory of four founders at Philly Startup Leaders’ Founder Factory in November.

Kristy McCann Flynn, founder of reskilling company GoCoach; David West, cofounder and COO of health IT company Proscia; Evan Brandoff, cofounder and CEO of youth sports sponsorship company LeagueSide; and Ned Moore, chairman and CEO of customer marketing platform Clutch, talked about how they handled the first few years of their companies’ growth.

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